Claimed Non-Terrestrial Disc Aircraft Development in German Possession

Recent years have seen the emergence of a rumour that float around the Internet like moths to a flame about a crashed UFO in the Black Forest in 1936 which was spirited away to the dark heart of Nazi Germany. There it was to be dismantled and diligently studied by, it is claimed, the members of the Vril Society.

While no historically verifiable evidence for this tale has come to light, the idea of alien technology that has fallen into the hands of a select group, was already the subject of a film in Germany in the First World War, when a little known silent film was released. Entitled "Algol", it tells the story of a superior extraterrestrial from the Dogstar, who donates incredible technology that enables a wealthy industrialist to enslave the world by this free energy device. Lost for decades, copies of the film have surfaced in recent years.

Claimed Non-Terrestrial Disc Aircraft Development in German Possession : The Freiburg Disc
By Rob Arndt

Hitler's obsession with the occult and astrology is well known - but evidence that his aerospace and rocket scientists were plundering alien technology to build Nazi UFOs has never gripped the public imagination.

Wernher von Braun and the Luftwaffe design teams could have been guided by extraterrestrials, perhaps looting interstellar components from a crashed spaceship.

DISCLAIMER: While this page is part of the German disc development chronology, the author does not necessarily support this view of how the Haunebu craft came into existence. The Haunebu project of 1935 started BEFORE the Freiburg crash of 1936 and the SS was already working off Nikolai Tesla's known works on broadcast power for aircraft propulsion, which would require something more complicated than any aircraft or helicopter in existence to fly at fantastic speeds. His Electrogravitational disc aircraft design is fairly close to the final Haunebu design. There are no known existing photos of the Freiburg disc, no dimensions known, nor means of non-terrestrial propulsion. Therefore, this article is provisional. You decide what to believe.

The Thule and Vril Gesellschaften (Societies), with technical assistance of the SS Technical Branch, were possibly the first groups in history to attempt the reverse-engineering of a non-terrestrial spacecraft based upon persistent reports of a crashed disc discovered in the Schwarzwald (Black Forest) near Freiburg in 1936.

German writer John van Helsing described the discovery of a crashed disc-shaped object and claims that this revolutionary technology was taken and (combined with the information the Vril Gesellschaft had received through psychic channeling) was incorporated into a joint project called the H-Gerät, or Haunebu disc machine which was initiated in the previous year. Thule financed the effort, Vril guided the direction of development, and the SS Technical Branch built the machine somewhere in NW Germany under the highest security.

When the Freiburg disc was hauled back to Wewelsburg it is claimed to have been scientifically dissected for any and all military value. While Vril and Thule had experimented with an “Otherworld Flight Machine” referred to as the JFM from 1922-24, no inter-dimensional space flight was believed achieved with this machine despite the psychic channeling of Vril Chefin Maria Orsic.

But even as Thule and Vril had some success with the early 1937-1941 RFZ (Rundflugzeug/Round Aircraft) disc aircraft, it was the Haunebu series of discs that were far superior in the end. Clearly, non-terrestrial influence did not lead to a suitable drive for the early purely German disc…but the crashed Freiburg non-terrestrial technology was something very different - actual hardware.

But even as Thule and Vril had some success with the early 1937-1941 RFZ (Rundflugzeug/Round Aircraft)disc aircraft, it was the Haunebu series of discs that were far superior in the end. Vril was obsessed with the concept of power derived from the "Black Sun" - an invisible eternal light with infinite power not visible to the human eye but existing in what we now call anti-matter. It was called at that time, however, “The Light of the Godhead” and was relentlessly pursued by Vril. The SS Technical Branch E-IV Unit (Entwicklungsstelle 4) was tasked with developing alternative energies by Reichsführer SS Himmler, an occultist himself, so a joint effort was beneficial to everyone involved with the Haunebu project.

In addition to the SS metaphysical research they also incorporated German quantum theory and the works of Nikolai Tesla into the disc development programs; consequently, such a merging of non-terrestrial and human technology probably led to the Haunebu.

It is claimed that from the crashed disc taken to Wewelsburg Castle the SS with Vril guidance developed a new form of propulsion, a field drive of immense power for the Haunebu, the first of the large German Flugscheiben (Flight Discs),  the Tachyonator 7 drive (a.k.a. Thule Triebwerk) for these machines - the first human product of reverse-engineering of non-terrestrial technology. It is believed that this drive was a form of electro-magnetic-gravitic (EMG) type.

Incredible Story: A Flying Saucer Lost Control and Crashed in Nazi Germany Before Roswell Incident
UFO News
Posted on 28 February 2012
Roswell, New Mexico is famous in terms of crashed alien craft but another story surfaced saying that an alien craft crashed at the countryside of Nazi Germany ten years before the Roswell incident. This story is allegedly covered-up by both the U.S. and U.S.S.R. for almost 70 years. According to the story, the Nazi hasve been basing their research on wingless, disc aircraft on the flying saucer. Moreover, the crashed alien craft was allegedly the actual basis of Hitler’s and Himmler’s near obsession with exotic technology and flying saucers. The amazing studies by S.S. physicists that developed flying saucers and the Bell, a motor that neutralized gravity and ripped a gash into the very fabric of the time-space continuum making amazing effects, were also made possible through studies of the flying saucers that crashed.

Nazi Germany is the first real superpower in the world rising from ashes of the old German Republic in 1937. During the same year, aliens crashed their troubled craft into the German countryside, according to the story.

Allegedly, the German army quickly arrived at the crash site and picked up the pieces. However, no record has found if bodies are also recovered.

According to what has been alleged, when the news about the crash arrived to the German authorities, they immediately ordered aeronautical experts to study the remains of the saucer. It is said that remains of the damaged saucer were brought into a warehouse facility with 24 hour security and some were brought to a facility near the Austrian border.

Rumors indicate that the members of the team working in advanced alien technology were from the Luftwaffe, the Speer Ministry of Arms under the leadership of Albert Speer, and from formal research council Reichsforschungrat, which was composed of industrial engineers and university professors.

Experts were tasked to do reverse engineering of the alien craft and among them were the Horton brothers. The brothers later designed and tested advanced flying wing aircraft and the first stealth jet fighter-bomber in the world. While it can’t be proven, many think that the revolutionary technology from the brothers was the result of the thorough study of the alien aircraft.

A few days later, Viktor Schauberger was tasked to examine the alien craft and later, he invented the imploder motor, developing an imploding vortex.

It is rumored that the motor was the basis for S.S. experiments in Poland with the Glocke (Bell) device capable of creating inter-dimensional rifts in space-time.

Italian researcher Renato Vesco wrote in his book that Nazis were developing many advanced propulsion system and rudimentary anti-gravity devices for its disc-shaped, or lenticular, aircraft.

German aircraft historian Henry Stevens says:

"Haunebu I was supposedly the first large flying saucer developed in Germany. According to plans allegedly obtained from classified German SS files, the Haunebu I was approximately seventy-five feet in diameter and probably lifted off for the first time in August 1939, a few weeks before the outbreak of World War II".

The Jordanow Mystery

The area is known to its residents as Malopolska ["Little Poland"], and it's the site of one of the stranger mysteries of World War II.

Jordanow, the Beskidy Mountains and the entire region between Krakow and the alpine-resort community of Zakopane (on what is now the border between Poland and Slovakia) fell to the Nazis in the early days of the war. On 6 September 1939, the German 14th Army, under Field Marshal Wilhelm von List, captured Zakopane and Jordanow. Within a week, for reasons never explained, the area was placed under the direct control of the SS. The area remained under Nazi rule until the arrival of Soviet Russian forces in January 1945.

In 1994, Polish author Robert K. Lesniakiewicz "interviewed former soldiers of the Armia Krajowa [Polish for "Homeland Army"] who had fought the Germans until January 1945. They saw the SS mining for uranium oxide" in the Beskidy Mountains near Jordanow. "The Zarnowka and Grzechynia buildings and Bunkers were built by local peasants and Russian, Ukrainian and Italian P.O.W.s. My mother-in-law was a prisoner in Grzechniya in 1943. They were guarded at first by SS men and at the end of the war by Wehrmacht [German Army] soldiers." [After Benito Mussolini was ousted in September 1943, Italy turned against her ally, the Third Reich. The Italian P.O.W.s at Jordanow were troops loyal to Marshal Pietro Badoglio.]

"All of the local people (civilians) were sent to the concentration camps at Oswiecim and Oswiecim-Brzezinka [better known by their German names, Auschwitz and Auschwitz-Birkenau], west of Krakow," Lesniakiewicz writes. The SS and, in particular, their leader, Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, took a keen interest in Jordanow and its environs. Numerous uranium oxide mines were opened and worked between April 1940 and November 1944. Himmler also tested several Nazi "wonder weapons" in the region.

"Grzechynia is a village 5 kilometers (3 miles) from Zawoja," Lesniakiewicz reported, "The Nazis had a base for developing the V-3 [the Tausendfüssler] also known as 'Schnelle Elise' or the 'Hochdruckpumpe', a 152-millimeter super cannon that could propel three-meter-long (10-foot) projectiles to distances of 45 to 50 kilometers (27 to 30 miles). The Germans fired them at a test range at Przezeck Krowiarki ("pass") towards the Tatra Mountains. Their long-term objective was to bombard London with these big cannons, from the French village of Mimoyeques. The Allies destroyed the V-3 base there."

The SS secret projects around Jordanow soon drew the attention of their enemies. "During World War II, the Beskidy Mountains were controlled by the right-wing Armia Krajowa and the left-wing Armia Ludowa [Polish for "People's Army] Also operating there were Soviet parachute troops of the OSNAZ ('Osobyennoye Naznachenye', Russian for "Special Task Forces") of the NKVD, commanded by NKVD Captain Alexei Lotov."

According to the Polish resistance fighters, "They also observed Russian geologists and NKVD (later the KGB) officials, who penetrated these mountains in October 1956. They did not find any uranium ore."
[Conventional World War II history teaches that Hitler's nuclear research program was based in Norway. The processing plant was destroyed in an Allied air raid in 1943. Yet here was the SS, mining uranium oxide by the ton in southern Poland throughout the war. The ore is processed into enriched, "weapons-grade" uranium. What became of all that uranium?]

"Himmler visited Zakopane twice: once in the winter of 1939-1940, when he met there with high-ranking NKVD officials," and again in 1943. During his second visit to the mountain resort city, Himmler "himself led the extermination of all the Polish and Jewish inhabitants of the Beskidy Maly area. All of the local people were sent to the concentration camps."

Apparently, Himmler had sent the SS to Jordanow on a "magickal mission."

According to local legend, there is an entrance to Agharta, or Interterra [also known as the "Underground World"], placed on the southwestern slope of Mount Babia Gora (elevation 1,725 meters or 5,692 feet)," just across the border in Slovakia." Himmler sent several dozen speleological expeditions to the Tatra Mountains and the Beskidy Mountains, as well as to the Slovakian, Czech and Hungarian mountains. He was especially interested in the Domica-Baradla Cave in the Slovakian-Hungarian borderland. He hoped to find the entrance to Shamballah, but he did not do it.

The SS searched for the entrance to Agharta on Mount Babia Gora and at the Half-Moon Cave in Byelanskye Tatra." However, long before he became the Reichsführer-SS and the self-styled "Lord of Atlantis," Himmler was interested in the Jordanow region and its local folk tales of a passage to "the Underground World."

In 1892, the Polish architect Stanislaw Witkiewicz purchased a summer home in Zakopane, 40 kilometers (25 miles) south of Jordanow, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. With his friend, the composer Karol Szymanowski, Witkiewicz founded a writers' and artists' colony. The group, which dabbled in theosophy, soon attracted a writer from Vienna, Dr. Friedrich Wichtl.

Dr. Wichtl was an occultist who specialized in Masonic lore and "world conspiracy" theories. He was a frequent visitor to Villa Koliba, the colony's meeting place in Zakopane, and to Lake Morskie Oko. After the collapse of Austria-Hungary in 1918 at the end of World War I, Dr. Wichtl wrote a best-selling book entitled "Weltfreimaurerei, Weltrevolution, Weltrepublik" [World Freemasonry, World Revolution, World Republic]. Himmler, then a military cadet convalescing after a serious stomach illness, read Dr. Wichtl's book in 1919, and it sparked his interest in the occult.

It is possible that Himmler may have met his mentor, Dr. Wichtl, six years earlier, when he was a young teenager. In the summer of 1913, the future-Reichsführer's father, Dr. Gebhard Himmler, was appointed vice-principal of the Gymnasium (high school) in Landshut. The elder Himmler celebrated this prestigious appointment by taking his wife and three sons, including 13-year-old Heinrich, on a tour of Austria-Hungary. The family spent some time in Zakopane and, as was their custom, went swimming on hot August days in Lake Morskie Oko. Dr. Wichtl also was in Zakopane at that time. Although they both shared a vivid interest in "the Underground World," Himmler's diary makes no mention of any meeting with Dr. Wichtl.

See the following books: "Wonderland: Alien Technologies in the Third Reich", by Dr. Milos Jesensky and Robert K. Lesniakiewicz, "Usti nad Larem", Warsaw, 2001; "Project Tatra", by Robert K. Lesniakiewicz, Krakow, 2002; "Himmler", by Peter Padfield, MJF Books, New York, N.Y. 1990; and "The Occult Roots of Nazism", by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, New York University Press, New York, N.Y., 1992.

The New NAZI ET Lie
By Tim Matthews

The most dangerous and insidious development in modern-day UFO research are the attempts currently being undertaken by a small group of researchers to shore up the extra-terrestrial hypothesis by invoking a number of dangerous right-wing and occult theories.

These relate to the supposed activities of the "Vril" society who, it is claimed, were responsible for imparting secret and magical knowledge to the Nazis from the late 1930s onwards. This made its' way into a number of secret technologies including the flying saucer. The occultists also appear to be claiming that extra-terrestrial knowledge was imparted to this group of Nazi losers...a worrying claim to say the least...

A forthcoming edition of 'UFO Magazine' (UK) is set to present 'evidence' that an ET craft crashed in Poland and was subsequently recovered by the Nazis and back-engineered no doubt into 'foo fighters' and hypersonic saucers. There appears to be no substantiation at all to support any of this evidence whereas both myself and other researchers approaching this question from an entirely factual and documentary basis have discovered the actual truth of the matter; German circular wing aircraft were under development although not advanced in any accepted meaning of the word by 1945.

They were tested and flown at a BMW facility near Breslau in early 1945 (the date 14 February 1945 is often give but there seems to be little evidence to support this claim) and film was taken of the test flight where the 'saucer' lifted off the ground and flew for a few minutes before landing safely.

It was flown by Flugkapitän Rudolf Schriever who subsequently claimed in newspaper interviews to have been involved in this fledgling German project. Schriever worked for the Heinkel company and developed an interest in Vertical Take-Off and Landing technology from 1940. The first test-flight, of the "V3" was in 1943.

The designation "V" refers to "Versuchs" which translates into "experimental". V has NOTHING to do with Vril!

The most intriguing part of this project was the development of the radial-flow engine featured in the USAF-ATIC-WADC Technical Document dated 15 February 1955 relating to 'Project Silver Bug' - the real AVRO disc and not to be confused with the miserable Avrocar.

Dr. Richard Walter Miethe and many other German technical specialists - whose work was entirely unrelated to any supposed 'occult' nonsense - were transported to the USA under the terms of 'Operation Paperclip' in 1945/6. Secretary to the USAF Alexander Flax admitted that Miethe had worked in the USA.

The discs that Miethe subsequently worked on and influenced used muffled jet engines and were able to hover as well as reach high speeds.

Although much of the contractor work was undertaken in Canada at AV Roe and Company the testing and evaluation was undertaken at Papoose Lake until at least the 1970s. There is little evidence to suggest that the work continued at this facility although we understand that the programme was also situated at Holloman AFB for a while.

The construction of this new Nazi-ET myth is ultimately impossible to disprove because there is no evidence - if you see what I mean. A writer, one Robert Konstanty (does anyone know who this is) is making totally unverifiable claims.

Most interestingly, one version of this Nazi-ET myth featured in an article written by a Mr. Bolnar for "Alien Encounters" magazine provided no evidence beyond unnamed sources and speculation.

He and other seem to be claiming that the 'alien craft' (?) 'crashed' in Poland in 1938. The Germans didn't invade until 1939 so why and how did they have the good fortune to get hold of it....?

What does this tell us about some elements of the UFO community?

They will believe almost anything as long as it supports their ET contact beliefs and wishes.

They are propping up a dangerous Nazi occult myth most likely to encourage right-wing extremism within Ufology (Ernst Zündel alias 'Christof/Mattern Friedrich' is the obvious example of a Nazi who made a great deal of money from the sales of this Nazi saucer book in the late 1970s and early 1980s).

It says something about the 'death of Roswell' and the many questions and problems related to it that pretty much rule out an ET crash retrieval - and look how 'witnesses' suddenly appeared (and remembered what they were doing in July 1947 in great detail) on the scene when the media became interested....

I suggest that we must try and expose this kind of propaganda for that is what it is - at all costs.

 USP # 2,431,293 (11-18-47)
Airplane of Low Aspect Ratio
Zimmermann, Charles H.


My colleague Bill Rose spoke to people formerly involved in the German disc programme and there is no suggestion that any high performance craft was built or flown even though there were tremendous advances in all manner of aviation made by German scientists. It was not until much later on that a German influence was felt in terms of advanced technology aircraft which is what we might expect. One of the reasons that we cannot learn more about Miethe and Co is not, as one UK skeptic has suggested , because they 'didn't exist' but entirely because they did and that certain of them had been involved in horrific war crimes. This dirty little secret has yet to be realised by the public and their governments appear to want to do very little to educate them on the subject of the wheeling and dealing that took place in order to gain Nazi technological assets after 1945.

In the USA at the time the V-173 that became the XF5U-1 was apparently more successful than its German counterparts and in fact Schriever was influenced by Zimmerman (not an alien nor an occultist) who worked closely with the US Navy and Chance-Vought during the war to get his advanced STOL 'flying pancake' in the air - with much success.

All the evidence that I have got strongly suggests to both myself and the others associated with our research that it was indeed the US Navy (Engineering Division) who were most responsible for the early postwar sightings of metallic discs which, in most cases, were operating well within the boundaries of terrestrial technology. A gas turbine powered XF5U-1, that "US AIR" 100-203-79 suggest was operational in 1947/8, would, according to several aviation writers have been able to fly at very low speeds and would have had a flight envelope of between 0-550mph....

A 'Project Sign' document in my possession indicates that the USAF Intelligence people knew about tests of low aspect ratio aircraft involved in 'boundary layer experiments' and that the aircraft was built by none other than Chance-Vought.

Occasionally, new information on classified aircraft forces the UFO community to look again at it's underlying raison d'être - the theory of ET-human contact.

In order to shore this theory up some researchers have reached and are reaching into the depths of Twentieth Century horror to create a Nazi-ET lie.......

UFO MAG Nazi Nonsense?

Tim Matthews

22 October 1998


Yes, the new "UFO Magazine"' (UK) is on the stands (hidden at the back where sensible people will be able to avoid it). One article - 'UFO crash at Czernia' - is a hilarious brand of Nazi pseudo history, factual inaccuracy and a desperate attempt to shore up the 'ET recovered' technology myth. Graham Birdsall seems to have completely lost his sense of objectivity. This kind of thing serves only those who wish to distort the truth about flying disc technologies. All I can say is that I hope the spooks pay well for such marvellous disinformation.


The story has it that a UFO 'crashed' in Poland on land owned by Eva Braun's parents no less in 1937. So far so bad but what else? It was recovered - not by the Polish cavalry, at this stage still on horseback, but by a detachment of Waffen SS troops! 18 months before Gleiwitz and the subsequent invasion of Poland by Hitler's troops. In Poland the 'recovered UFO' taken by (non-existent SS troops) was no doubt back engineered and converted by means unknown into a flying disc.


The town Czernica is in Silesia which was a part of Germany until 1945. If an UFO crashed there in 1937, it was a German town. So the story of Germans seizing the crash site after the invasion is wrong.

Other authors writing about Haunebus never mentioned the Czernica crash.

Also, the story gives the date 1937 and tells about German occupation. The occupation of Poland started 1939. Even if the Czernica crash took place in a Polish town the date is wrong. The family of Eva Braun was living in Munich for generations. Eva Braun´s father was a teacher for joinery. It is very unlikely and nowhere documented that he owned land far away in Silesia. 

All this in three years and Rudolf Schriever must have lied when he claimed to have adapted his VTOL disc idea from those of William Horton Zimmerman in the USA. Even more unusually, he employed jet engines which, although in their infancy were no match for alien hardware no doubt deciphered via telepathy

ET and Hitler link up? Only in your wildest dreams people. The author of this terrible article - a disgrace to Ufology in fact - then finishes off the piece with a load of old (very old and very sad) crap about "Vril", "Haunebu" discs etc. etc. As I pointed out the "V" designation relates to "Versuchs" - the German word for experimental. Some time ago I predicted the new Nazi-ET lie; and here it is - sadly lacking in reality or evidence.....


I predicted this Nazi/occult stuff is the fall back position for those unhappy and/or unconvinced by the ever-so-shaky Roswell case. It is desperate stuff totally lacking in any evidence and entirely without a factual basis. But idiots will believe it and idiots will buy it. Sales of Peter Moons' ridiculous 'Black Sun' Nazi/occult/Mountauk right-wing propaganda may even be encouraged as a result. This nonsense will not deter us from seeking both truth and reality.

PS: I note an even bigger mistake in the 'Czernia' article featured in "UFO Magazine" (UK). The Waffen SS was not even formed until 2 March 1940. So what was it doing in Poland three years before? Time travel? A quick check on the Internet was all it took to find this out.

Czernica, Germany (now territory of Poland) - Summer 1937

A multicolored ball or globe-shaped UFO was seen to fall in a field (or near a field) belonging to Eva Braun’s parents (this was the future mistress of Adolf Hitler) The area was cordoned off by SS-troops from the town of Jelenia Gora (called Hirschberg at the time).

The crashed disk was transported to the Hirschberg SS base and kept under very strong guard and super top security. The disk was 7.6 meter in diameter and 3.8 meters high. It consisted of a large "overwhelming" dome, encircled by a narrow outer rim, and smaller flat dome on the bottom with a flat lower section. The top of the dome was also flat and large. The craft had 6 oval-shaped structures resembling portholes but not transparent, or devices that radiated some type of light, located near the base of the upper dome. On the lower surface of the outer rim the craft had 12 lights. The color of the disk was a dull metal gray. There was an insignia on the dome resembling the letter “T” with 2 props on its sides. The entrance into the disk was found on the top of the upper dome. The general shape of the disk resembled that of a German soldier’s helmet with a small protrusion on the bottom.

nside the circular cabin were 3 small seats, there were control panels around the dome and 3 alien beings were found: one was dead, the other two were alive. One of the live aliens died soon after the crash, and the second live alien remained in custody for about 1.5 months and then died. The aliens were small dwarfs, about 0.9-1.0m in height, with large hairless pear-shaped heads, small dystrophic looking bodies, long narrow hands with 4 fingers, grayish skin and large dark slanted eyes.

The Germans were afraid to move the disk to a more distant location, out of apprehension that it might explode during a long trip during transportation. So, a research laboratory had to be constructed nearby. From Hirschberg the disk was removed to a more secured underground location, which most likely was a Nazi complex in the nearby Gory Sowie mountains (now in southwest Poland), called "Der Riese", which was also a site being used for excavating for uranium ore. This complex had an extensive network of underground hangars, connected by tunnels. The bodies of the occupants and the living extraterrestrial were also moved into this complex. The alien that lived for a little bit over a month apparently supplied the Germans with some type of information and was desperately asking the Nazi medical doctors for help, but they could not help him because of the different biological structure of his body. The alien died from an unknown illness.

The origin of the crashed craft was apparently the double star system RA known on earth as 78 mu-1, Cygni, 73.1 light years in distance. Among the information given to the Germans by the surviving alien was that they had built underground bases in the polar region of the Canadian Northern Territories maybe Baffin Island. This data was supplied to Adolf Hitler himself. But no substantial technical data was in fact provided by the alien that could had help Nazi scientists to cope with the alien technology, despite their desperate attempt to obtain such data. The surviving alien also informed the Germans that the crashed was caused by some kind of technical malfunction. The alien was kept and interrogated at the same underground installation as the disc.

"Adolf Hitler and some other top Nazi figures including Wernher von Braun and Air Marshall Hermann Göring inspected the crashed disk, the alien bodies and consulted Nazi scientists in an attempt to use the object as a super secret weapon. Among those scientist involved in investigating the crashed disc were, Max Von Laue, Otto Hahn (who discovered nuclear fusion) and Werner Heisenberg.

Fortunately (and unfortunately for the Nazis) the alien technology was extremely sophisticated and difficult to understand. The disc indeed inspired some Nazi scientists to construct different models of disc-shaped planes and the so-called flying bombs.

This crash and possession of the extraterrestrial spacecraft was one of the factors that possibly inspired Hitler with extreme self-confidence to start World War II, hoping to use the craft as a sort of super weapon that would eventually help him conquer the world. Because of the approaching Soviet troops the whole underground complex was blown up, and the disk and the alien bodies was buried in one of the underground tunnels, the entrance was sealed with numerous huge rocks. It is apparently still there, unbeknownst to the Polish Government. The disc apparently still emanates radiation from its power plant, but because of the nearby uranium mines this source of radiation remains undetected.

Roswell Crash May Have Been a US Built Aircraft 
George A. Filer
MUFON Eastern Director
MUFON Skywatch Investigations
Filer's Files #37-1998

British Aviation Expert, Tim Matthews writes:  "I read with interest ex-CIA man Karl Pflocks' fascinating and lucid article entitled 'For Your Eyes Only' featured in the September 1998, "Fortean Times", FT114. It seems to me that the UFO debate is only allowed to exist within certain parameters whereby; on the one hand the 'believers' believe that an ET craft crashed at Roswell or elsewhere and that subsequently the material and or bodies were taken to a classified location for testing and evaluation.

Other Theories for What Crashed at Roswell

In addition to the two primary theories/stories of the Roswell crash (alien flying saucer; weather balloon), some other theories have been put forth over the years, including:

1. What was found may have been a captured, German-built V-2 unguided ballistic missile known to have been test-fired from the White Sands proving ground, less than a hundred miles southwest of Corona, New Mexico. This might account for the finding of unfamiliar parts. As for the bodies that were found some distance from the debris field, some proponents of the rocket explanation suggest they were nothing more exotic than monkeys that had been lofted into near-space as part of a biological test program that would eventually lead to manned space flight.

2. From November 1944, through April 1945, the Japanese launched more than nine thousand crude, gas-filled balloons, each carrying fifty to seventy-five pounds of incendiary or high-explosive bombs. As many as a thousand of them may have ridden the prevailing winds all they way to North America. One of these may have crashed at Roswell.

While some of these balloons actually did make it to America, starting several fires and killing six Americans, it is unlikely that a balloon from Japan stayed aloft for two years before crashing in Roswell, 1947, since the last Japanese balloon launch was in 1945.

3. There is always the possibility that what crashed on the Foster ranch and even at the plains of San Agustin was connected to the test flight of a secret American airplane or missile. At any one time, various secret vehicles are being tested in the wide open spaces of the West where the chances of their being seen accidentally are at a minimum. This was true in 1947 and it is certainly true today.

The most important evidence against the crashed jet aircraft scenario is that the crash happened on 3rd or 4th July. The military wouldn't have enough personnel in the area to conduct operations on that date - they would all have gone home to celebrate. The War was still fresh in everybody's mind, and celebrations would still be fervent. The last thing the authorities would do is to schedule a test of their new aircraft on July 4th, to then have to deny all requests for leave. That would raise too many questions from the public: what's the military doing that's so important our soldiers can't come home to celebrate with their families?

4. Some people believe that what crashed at Roswell was a secret Soviet weapon. This was probably a reasonable theory in 1947, when the U.S. government was concerned that the Soviets might have leaped far ahead of America using captured Nazi German technology and scientists. Today, however, based on our thorough knowledge of early Soviet jet airplanes and rockets, this theory doesn't seem to hold water.

On the other hand the sceptics argue, through an examination of declassified documents and by pointing out the sometimes obvious inconsistencies in witness' statements, that no flying saucers crashed. They often further conclude that there are therefore no saucers, period. This dead end debate fails to consider the strong possibility (or reality in my opinion) that the US military was engaged in the construction of flying disc-type aircraft.

Technically speaking these were only UFOs to the uninformed observer and were in fact low aspect ratio aircraft. I fully recognize that the sceptics and believers are not prepared to admit to this and as a result both myself and the few aviation researchers who research this area of interest plough a rather lonely furrow.

First, there is no doubt that one element of the reality behind low aspect ratio aircraft is German in origin. The work of Alexander Lippisch, the Horten Brothers, Günter Boch, Walter Dornberger, von Braun, Dr. Richard Walter Miethe and others was way ahead of the allies.

Before I go any further let me first add the standard disclaimer; Mention of German wartime technologies is in no way evidence of my support for right-wing beliefs, so-called "Nazi superiority", a 'secret agenda of holocaust revisionism' or any of the other smears and BS that have been put out by a few malicious characters. In fact, what is so ironic is that it is precisely because of war crimes that some of the men above were involved in, directly or indirectly, that their work remains classified by the US government. Any supposed UFO "cover-up" has very little to do with "crashed saucers" and a great deal more to do with the political and military realities of the immediate postwar period. 


Possible constructed BMW Flügelrad II
V-2 in flight, April 1945; powered by
underbody BMW 003 turbojets

Beginning with work into VTOL aircraft within the Heinkel company at Marienhe, Rostock, in the late 1930s the work progressed and one of the places that it ended up was at one of three BMW facilities near Prague. This led to the development of a rather primitive circular-wing aircraft that was able, in early 1945, to take off and fly for several minutes before returning home. There are several witnesses to this event. Film was made of this test-flight and is beyond our grasp at this stage. The scientists involved were almost certainly on the "black list" of wanted technical specialists drawn up by allied intelligence operatives and hunted down by a combination of FIAT and CAF Teams from June 1944. Operations Overcast and Paperclip were examples of allied attempts to get hold of German experts.

I will use Intelligence documents - these quotations are taken from the CIA FOIA Popular (UFO) Documents site: "Reported Sightings of Unconventional Aircraft" -- dated 19 October 1955--paragraph 4:

1. Project 'Y' is being directed by John Frost. Mr. Frost is reported to have obtained his original idea for the flying machine from a group of Germans just after World War Two.
2. The Soviets may have obtained information from this German group. (Project Y was a saucer-type design.)

From a Counter Intelligence Corps region Vl document dated 10 November 1947 (declassified 1994); Flying Saucers - paragraph 2:

"The opinion was expressed that some sort of object, such as the flying saucer, did exist. At the present time, construction models are being built for wind tunnel tests. It is further suspected that the flying objects may have been developed from original plans and experiments conducted by the Germans prior to the capitulation. Headquarters, 970th CIC detachment, European Command, is desirous of locating German aircraft specialists or test pilots who might have some knowledge of similar aircraft. This canvass is to be made discreetly and to conceal our interest in the subject".

Resulting information was to be sent to Air Material Command. This puts an entirely different perspective on things. This is nothing to do with crash retrievals, alien spacecraft but man-made technologies. I received an E-mail with detailed information from a man involved in early radar testing of flying wing designs constructed in the USA using German plans. He told me that they had a low Radar Cross Section (RCS) and were stable in flight with excellent lift. What is more, such flying wing aircraft (and a disc is a flying wing too) were said in USAF Air Intelligence Report 100-203-79 to 'most closely resemble' those objects reported as UFOs.

Back on 23 September 1947 the Schulgen Memorandum, and I quote from a copy of the original, stated that:

"It is possible within the present US knowledge - provided that extensive detailed development is undertaken - to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7,000 miles at subsonic speeds".

Beyond the good ol' UFO myths about lightning speeds of travel - where no observer would see a thing - many of the early sightings of so-called UFOs noted a heel-shaped planform and an aircraft that traveled at estimated speeds of between 300 to 600 mph. I take these approximate speeds from reports by aircraft pilots who saw structured craft and who might reasonably expected to make a better estimate. Of course, the usual suspects will debunk all this but I think that we're getting near the truth of the matter.

Even more fascinating was Nathan Twinings' association with 'Operation Paperclip' and the transportation of those questionable Nazi scientists to the US. 'Operation Lusty', the postwar effort to get hold of data on German wartime projects was, not unlike the efforts made by CIC staff both during and after the war, very similar. There was a clear need to control the information about these advanced technologies and to recover the data and develop the aircraft in secret. So who did all the work and where did it take place? Initially - White Sands Proving Ground and Muroc Field. The source mentioned above did the flying wing tests at that location.

The USAF was not the prime mover in disc aircraft. The US Navy was most responsible. The men who worked on the Chance-Vought XF5U1 - Flying Pancake was often held up as an example of a 'failed' circular wing aircraft - had high security clearances. I spoke to a 78 year old former employee living in Pennsylvania. He worked on the skins for the XF5U1 and contrary to popular opinion the aircraft flew, often at low speeds at night in the Bridgeport, Connecticut area from 1946. Initially a prop driven aircraft of circular planform the XF5U1 is said to have suffered from several deficiencies. Nevertheless, the postwar rush to replace prop engines with jets affected the XF5U1 and we now strongly suspect that a jet-powered 'pancake' was indeed responsible for its' share of saucer sightings. The man I spoke to was fully aware of this - he in fact worked on plans for the jet-powered version. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the US Navy was interested in this aircraft and in fact supported its' development as a possible STOL aircraft from 1942. The project went into the black and I have in my possession a 'Project Sign' document, which says that the US Navy had an experimental aircraft built by Vought.

Document; Special Report - Project SIGN - 23 June 1948, from Colonel R D Wentworth USAF, Acting Chief of Intelligence:

"Suggest leaving out sales talk for low aspect ratio aircraft. We will find out their practical advantages from Navy tests. It is the opinion of this office that since the vast majority of the objects reported can best be described as being similar to the flying wing type aircraft of low aspect ratio, this concept must be retained in the letter. In deference to the views of the Director of Research and Development, however, it is recommended that reference be made to past experiments conducted under the auspices of the Engineering Division and the present experiments of the Navy with low aspect ratio aircraft and boundary layer control".

It comes as no surprise to me to learn that the destination for 'Paperclip' scientists was Fort Bliss - on the New Mexico/Texas border situated close by the White Sands facilities. Chance Vought moved to Dallas, Texas in 1947. It was only marginally to do with German technology as the Pancake story indicates. The US and Canada built several saucers as other intelligence documents and reports, for instance the recently (1995) declassified 'Project Silver Bug' technical report, make clear. This was a circular-wing aircraft supposedly designed in Canada (by a team said to include Dr. Miethe) but which our sources tell us was actually built and flown at Papoose Lake from 1958/9. The plans were drawn up at AVRO Canada primarily as a diversion. It was here, at S4, that some of the secret planes tasked with combating Soviet intruders were built. The saucers used jet propulsion.

The Soviet threat was a constant preoccupation for the US military and the threat was very real. Klaus Habermohl, a BMW engineer who worked as part of the 'Flugzeug Special Projects Group' in Prague, was captured by the Russians in Prague on or about 11 May 1945. He undoubtedly helped the construction of a Soviet disc and I recently came across plans for another Soviet low aspect aircraft that would have used Nuclear propulsion. I do not know whether this worrying development ever got off the drawing board. What I do know is that Senator Russell and his party saw a flying disc during a trip to the USSR in 1955 and that his most credible sighting was swept under the carpet by the same military intelligence personnel with knowledge both of unconventional US and Soviet aircraft. I very much doubt whether Russell and his party saw the disc by accident.

There were many elements to the ongoing struggle between the Soviet and US military and their intelligence machines and this is reflected in several texts including John Ranelagh's definitive book "The Agency" (Sceptre 1988). Check out the few CIA documents in its' Popular UFO Documents collection and note the near hysteria about advanced Soviet aircraft and intentions. Perhaps the most important and hidden aspect of this was the increasing threat of Soviet penetration of US airspace via Alaska. In any case the CIA was most concerned about 'non-conventional air vehicles' under development by the Soviets as the 16 June 1954 memorandum entitled "Intelligence Responsibilities for Non-Conventional Types of Air Vehicles" makes very clear. The CIA also had a close working relationship with ATIC at Wright-Patterson where much of the official reporting relating to UFOs took place and also where, most coincidentally, the technical report for 'Project Silver Bug' was produced. Again I stress that the CIA and its' counterparts were fully aware that the US and it's allies were developing saucers and triangles.

From the 14 June 1954 document - paragraph 2a:

" the use by any foreign power or nation of non-conventional types of air vehicles, such as similar to the 'saucer-like' planes presently under development by Anglo/British/Canadian efforts".

This is most likely a reference to the 'Silver Bug' VTOL circular planform low aspect ratio craft. The advanced radial flow engine version, supposedly of WW2 German origin, was the favored model and the Technical Report, written in 1955 after the CIA had attempted to play down the significance of the aircraft the year before, made it abundantly clear that the development of 'Silver Bug' was not to be confused with 'science fiction' stories about flying discs. What is more, the October 1955 CIA document entitled "Reported Sighting of Unconventional Aircraft" noted that 'Project Y' - the overall project designation for the AVRO family of saucers including 'Silver Bug' - wind tunnel tests had already been funded to the extent of $800,000 thus indicating that this was NO paper plane. Let me also make it clear that the AVROCAR hovercraft can only be seen as a failed cover story. AVRO, it should be remembered, built the Arrow, a most radical aircraft decades ahead of its time. I have information from a number of witnesses who saw disc-type aircraft in hangars at the AVRO-Canada facilities near Malton, Ontario, which had nothing to do with AVROCAR. They were guarded by USAF personnel. All we are left with now is a filling-in-the-gaps exercise.

This is hardly the whole story but these facts are irrefutable. More information on this is set to emerge in the next few months and as we approach the millennium the truth about "UFOs" is starting to emerge. This has nothing to do with aliens, crash retrievals and recovered ET technology. I hope for new evidence although I suspect that the usual debunkers will posit a psycho-social type argument - or more likely simply ignore it. Its true declassified documents are very good evidence and in most cases were not seen for 30 years after they had been written. In conclusion I feel it is wrong to state that previously declassified documents contain within them "no physical evidence of the nature and origin of UFOs" at any time before 1955. The documents indicate that flying saucers and the objects described as UFOs were, more than likely, the product of terrestrial technology.

Roswell Crash: The Nazi Connection
"Before It's News"
15 February 2014

Two key people were on hand to recover the debris from the Roswell saucer crash site: the base intelligence officer and a member of the Counter Intelligence Corps. They directed the recovery of the debris, which consumed a good part of the following day, and loaded the pieces into two vehicles. The debris went to Roswell AAF for disposition.

At about the same time, 100 miles away, Grady Barnett found what he believed to be a crashed saucer. Nearby were four small dead bodies. They had frail limbs and large heads with big, slanted eyes. According to Barnett, their bodies were encased in tight, one-piece, grey suits with no visible fasteners. Again, the military was quick to arrive. All witnesses were ushered away and ordered not to speak of the event.

On 8 June 1947, six days after the first event (all the debris may have been from the same vehicle), a press release approved by Lt. W. Haut, announced that saucer debris had been recovered by the 509th Bomb Group. The debris from both finds are loaded aboard a B-29 and flown to Carswell AFB in Fort Worth, Texas where it the announced is made that it was nothing more than the remains of a standard weather balloon.

We are supposed to believe it took military intelligence officers an entire week to determine that the debris was from a weather balloon, an object any alert E-1 could have identified in about 30 seconds. Since most officers do not scrub about pastures recovering debris from fallen objects, it must be assumed some enlisted men were on hand for the task. Dozens, if not all, could have identified the object as a weather balloon if it was, indeed, a weather balloon. But if not a weather balloon, what was it? Let's eliminate the two least likely possibilities: weather balloon and alien space craft, and concentrate on discovering what the 509th might have carried away from the pastures in 1947.

To find an answer, we must return to the period near the end of World War Two and Nazi Germany. German engineers and technicians had produced the only operational jet bomber, the Arado Ar 234 'Blitz', during the war. Additionally, Willie Messerschmitt had designed, tested and produced both the Me 262 'Schwalbe' twin-jet fighter-bomber and the Me 163 'Komet' rocket plane. Each of the latter planes was hundreds of miles per hour faster than anything the Allies had at the time. The Me 262 was powered by two very advanced Jumo axial-flow jet engines. The Me 163 was powered by a rocket motor using hyper-golic fuels.

But most bizarre was the disclosure that the BMW plant in Prague had built a prototype advanced jet powered saucer-shaped aircraft with a diameter of 140 feet. Completed in 1944, this radical aircraft was flying by February, 1945 and was destroyed with its blueprints when it became apparent it would soon fall into the hands of the Allies. British and U.S. intelligence reports confirm the existence of this real 'Flying saucer'. Cessation of hostilities between the warring countries and the knowledge that Germany might have won the war by pure technical skill had not the Allies overwhelmed it with an endless supply of expendable hardware and personnel, was the impetus that prompted U.S., British, French and Russian scientists, politicians and military leaders to develop weapons equal to or better than those that had nearly destroyed half the civilized world.

Before the war was even declared at an end, U.S. intelligence agencies were scouring the countryside trying to locate as many German scientists and engineers and their hardware as they could before the Russians or British found them. By mid 1947, Arthur Rudolph, director of the Dora-Nordhausen rocket projects, and hundreds of former Nazis and members of the SS were safely settled in dusty desert towns in southern Texas where they began re-assembling a few V-2 rockets from hundreds of crates transported from Germany. Rudolph would go on to create the Saturn V booster that would put an American astronauts into orbit around the Earth.

The American public, by and large, was unaware that these former Nazis were here or that their weapons would soon be launched from American soil, because the German teams had been literally smuggled into the country illegally and in secrecy by the military. White Sands Missile Test Center was just down the road a piece. Los Alamos was not far away. Roswell AAF was north, across the state border. When pieces of strange, unidentifiable objects began raining from the desert skies, it is no wonder that uninformed officers at Roswell's 509th thought they had discovered something 'not made on this planet'.

But when knowledgeable people heard of the incident through the media reports and frantic telephone calls, they would have clamped a lid on the find. The exotic materials found at both sites may have been pieces of a German-now-American V-2 tactical ballistic rocket gone astray! The pieces, after all, went to Carswell AAF in Texas, probably close to where they had been fired if the reports are correct. There would have been no need to send the debris to Wright Patterson Air Force Base for identification. Compromise of the classified projects and disclosure that former Nazi officers were responsible would have created a political disaster, hence the weather balloon story was released to pacify the American public.

America and Russia, who had kidnapped and confiscated the lion's share of German engineers and hardware, lost no time developing advanced aircraft and missiles of their own. Many of the early marks were bolt-for-bolt replicas of German operational aircraft. The North American F-86 'Sabre', so famous during the Korean War, was developed directly from German technology, the prototype flying on 1 October 1947.

Two weeks later, on 14 October 1947, Captain Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in the Bell X-1. A series of stunning and incredible flights followed with the X-planes leading the way toward the edge of space. By 1958 the first North American X-15 was rolled out and by June, 1960, an X-15, powered by a Viking Rocket XLR-99 engine producing 57,000 pounds of thrust, reached an altitude of 59.6 miles, the very threshold of space itself, at a speed of 4,000 miles per hour. In 1964, the X-15 Number 2, designated A-2, established an absolute speed record of 4,520 miles per hour.

The next series of tests were to be conducted with exo-atmosphere orbital planes but the project was cancelled before the planes could be developed. Exo-atmosphere planes were not a new concept. At least not to the German engineers. During the Second World War, German engineer Eugen Sänger had proposed and drawn up the plans for a massive sub-orbital 'Skip Bomber' that, if produced, would have entered the edge of space, re-entered on a flat trajectory, and skipped across oceans of air and water until it fell to earth over North America. It would have carried a nuclear warhead.

America's 'Skip' planes should have led the way to reusable aircraft that could have taken off from the ground (rather than being carried aloft under the wing of a B-52), flown into space and returned to the same airfield to refuel and take more passengers into space. Scott Crossfield, who helped develop the X-15 and was its chief pilot for a number of flights, recently stated that if the exo-atmosphere tests had proceeded, America would have been in space with a reusable aircraft years ago. But the Space Shuttle program was developed (by the same German scientists) and the orbital planes were all but forgotten along with the daring pilots who paved the way for a new generation of astronauts who would take man's first tentative steps on another planet of the solar system.

Rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Willy Ley both worked on America's space program at Huntsville's Redstone Arsenal. Their efforts put Americans on the moon. It is interesting to note that the period during the development, testing and evaluation of the X-planes, from 1947 to 1959, was also the period when most UFO sightings were reported. Unidentified Flying Object reports dropped dramatically from a high of 1,501 in 1952 to only 167 during the last six months of 1959. Of the 173 official reports filed in the first six months of 1960, only three were classified as 'Unidentified'.

During the entire 'Blue Book reporting period from 1947 to 1960, the number of unidentified sightings averaged only about 2%, or 130 out of a total of 6,523 reported sightings. A number of the unidentified sightings were classified as 'Lights In The Sky'. Lights in the sky can include such phenomena as ball lightning, swamp gas, earthquake lights, meteors, plasma, stars, planets, aircraft lights, jet or rocket exhaust, sun-dogs and a host of other odd known or unknown effects. 'Nuts and Bolts' sightings include aircraft, rockets or other tangible man-made artifacts, or unidentified or unknown aerial cars. 'Sightings' are generally defined as observations of unknown craft at a distance greater than 500 feet where the craft does not touch the ground, does not affect the environment and does not alarm nearby animals.

Of all the reports filed, 'Lights In The Sky' seem to be the most perplexing and difficult to explain. Many lights, or glowing orbs, perform complex maneuvers and sometimes respond to other lights or telepathic commands, or to the movements of human observers.

They apparently defy the known laws of the universe, traversing the atmosphere with ease and flashing into hyper-drive in the twinkling of an eye, or by making rapid right-angle turns, stopping suddenly from rapid flight and hovering silently for long periods before they sail away.

In 1974, 'Ground Saucer Watch', consisted of 500 engineers, physicists and astronomers, began using computer enhancement to determine if UFO photos were real or fakes. Scanned onto a computer screen, the images are reduced to 245,000 pixels and the computer is programmed to assign each pixel a brightness rating. Using color contouring, 3-D enhancement, and a number of other sophisticated tests, GSW engineers were able to prove conclusively that 90% of previously accepted UFO photographs were hoaxes.

Two of the most famous UFO photographs were taken by Paul Trent on 11 May 1950 at about 7:45 in the evening. Mrs. Trent was in the yard feeding her rabbits when she looked up and saw a large metal disc sailing silently across the sky. She called to her husband who got his camera from the car and snapped two shots of the disc before it accelerated and disappeared toward the west. Fearing he might have photographed a secret U.S. aircraft, Mr. Trent told only a few friends about the incident. A reporter from the local newspaper heard of the sighting and eventually got the negatives. Within a week the photographs were printed on the cover of "Life Magazine". In 1969, after rigorous scrutiny, skeptical scientists working on the 'Condon Report' accepted that the object in the photos could not be explained by any known natural or supernatural phenomena. They concluded, "...that the photographs confirm' precisely what the witnesses said they saw".  GSW examined the photos and endorsed the Condon findings in 1974 when its experts concluded that the object in the two photographs was a real 'Nuts and Bolts' solid object, between 60 and 90 feet in diameter with a flat, evenly lighted underside and had been at least one-half mile away from the observers.

In 1947, Kenneth Arnold made his historic UFO sighting while flying his private plane near the Cascade Range in Washington State. Nearby, in the inaccessible canyons and mountains of the Yakima Indian reservation, over 200 anomalous lights have been reported in the past 20 years. Reports include stories of discs, fires, glowing canyons, sounds from underground, encounters and other odd phenomena. Most reports are of bright lights moving low in the sky, swelling and pulsing with color. Some seem to be aware of humans, some cause automobile engines to quit, others affect nearby animals.

Glowing orbs of lights performing apparently intelligent maneuvers have been photographed and observed with various scientific instruments in England, the United States and Norway, enabling investigators to make educated guesses about speed, size and light intensity. Their physical and chemical properties remain a mystery. Photographs of the objects reveal nothing more than lights rather than objects with features of flying saucers. Taken as lights alone, these phenomena pose a genuine challenge to science. Nothing presently known fits the description of the lights. They last longer than any known transient luminous phenomena. They glide silently, often for long distances, proving that they are not associated with specific locations. Some have been photographed against a background of mountains, proving they are not celestial bodies, mirages, or refraction effects. They are larger and brighter than any other known atmospheric light. Some have been reported since at least 1771, meaning cars, trains and aircraft lights must be ruled out as causes. They exist in the physical world, and evidence shows they may respond to lasers, light, radio waves and telepathic messages.

Challenged to explain sightings of mysterious lights in the hills around Piedmont, Missouri, physics professor Harley Rutledge of Southeast Missouri State College, set up 'Project Identification' in 1973 to gather data. 178 anomalous objects were recorded on 157 separate occasions. 40 scientists used a wide range of equipment, telescopes, sophisticated cameras, spectrum analyzer as well as a galvanometer to measure changes in the earth's gravitational field. Simultaneous observations from widely separated locations allowed measurements of speed, course, and position of the objects. Sightings of aircraft, meteorites, headlights, refracted lights, etc., were eliminated from the investigation. The most startling discovery was that, on at least 32 recorded occasions, the movement of the lights synchronized with actions of the observers.

They appeared to respond to a light being switched on and off, to verbal or radio messages, and even to telepathic communication. These claims, made by a member of the lay public, would have been dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic; coming from a professor of physics, they merit serious consideration. In 1944, while flying over Germany, USAAF pilot Bill Leet reported a luminous sphere suddenly appeared beside his B-17 "like a light switch being turned on". It paced the plane for almost 45 minutes, then vanished. The gunners wanted to shoot at it but Leet ordered them not to, stating that if the light wanted to harm them, it could have done so any time.

This was just one of many sightings of the now-famous 'Foo Fighters' reported by pilots flying over Europe in the winter of 1944-45. The discs and globes were about five feet in diameter, generally seen at night, and sometimes changed color from orange to red to white and back to orange. They were never seen on radar. After the war, German and Japanese pilots admitted they had been perplexed by the same phenomena. They have never been satisfactorily explained. Could it be that these glowing orbs, combining a physical existence with an ability to interact with the human psyche, hold the key to the UFO enigma? Secret weapons have always been guarded by the military and certain U.S. intelligence agencies for obvious reasons. It is simply not in the military's interest to have thousands of public eyes prying into top-secret projects, nor is it, indeed, in the public's interest to do so.

The most bizarre of all aircraft, the alien-looking Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk [although commonly referred to as the "Stealth Fighter", it was strictly a ground-attack aircraft], the 'Shabah' (Spirit), of Desert Storm fame, was kept secret right up until the time it was deployed to Saudi Arabia and it had flown around the country for years. Had the public known of its existence, had foreign countries known of its existence, an effective countermeasure for detecting and destroying it might have been developed before it could have been used. So we must accept that there are some projects better left secret.

In 1947, a few days prior to the Roswell incident, a V-2 rocket had been fired from White Sands Missile Test Center. At about the same time, the U.S. Army released one of its first polyethylene weather balloons, a material uncommon in the late 1940's and which may have explained reports of a material "incredibly tough" and unlike any seen on this planet. Additionally, either of those vehicles might have carried monkeys aloft as part of the test, which could explain the four small dead creatures discovered at the second site. But even if secret rockets and weather balloons go astray (and the early V-2s were famous for it) the military and intelligence agencies, encouraging interest in the UFO phenomena, can discredit observers as cranks and, thus, effectively maintain the integrity of secret weapons tests. It is the UFO conspiracy.

Areas of high UFO activity in America have always been near test sites for secret weapons and aircraft. Additionally, several aspects of UFO activity might be attributable to the CIA or some group within the CIA since waves of UFO sightings often occur after times of crises within the government. Several UFO sightings followed the Soviet's successful launching of 'Sputnik' in November 1957 when America's own space efforts were failing dismally on the screens of every American television set. A UFO conspiracy, apparently now directed by a group ensconced in the lower stories of the Pentagon, and backed up by the military, effectively masks secret weapons from prying eyes. Disinformation diverts the scientific community from serious study of UFO phenomena.

Obvious hoaxes, staged a few years apart, are enough to keep the media and scientists off-balance. Behind the smokescreen, new secret technology and radical aircraft designs can be developed, tested and evaluated without serious interference from people who have no need to know what is going on. It doesn't matter if someone is trying to hide a secret weapon, planning a corporate take-over or concealing their involvement in an assassination, these two strategies apply:

(1) If you want to keep your secrets, you always create a diversion to keep people looking in the wrong direction, and

(2) If the evidence you find leads to only one conclusion, the conclusion will be wrong every time because the evidence has been planted. 'Nuts and Bolts' flying around the skies of every country on the planet is one thing; 'Lights in the Sky' are something else.

It seems entirely plausible that an experimental saucer-shaped aircraft might have overflown the Trent house in Oregon in 1950, a period of great activity in aircraft development in America. It is less plausible that lights responding to human telepathic communication in Piedmont, Missouri are creations of the U.S. military or manipulations of the CIA. They have been seen for centuries on every continent and by nearly every race of people, many of whom never even heard of the CIA or ever read a UFO report. Unlocking the secrets of the lights may give us some of the answers to the continuing enigma of UFO.

Adolf Hitler flying saucer alien was evil Nazi dictator after Hitler cancer death
Twilight Zone Conspiracy Theory. Third Reich’s Flying saucer that brought a different ‘lookalike’ Hitler to earth who then acted as Hitler after Hitler’s death from cancer

This Conspiracy Theory here  is just out of this world, but it is shared here just for the hell of it.

In 1937, as Nazi Germany was rising from the ashes of the old German Republic and becoming an evil fascist dictatorship – an incredible thing happened: an alien crashed its distressed craft into the German countryside.

The German army was there to pick up the pieces, the spacecraft was not too badly damaged but what walked out of an airlock door on the side of the spacecraft shocked all who were present that fateful day.

A figure emerged and walked into the morning sunlight, it was the figure of a man, that much could be clearly seen, but the most shocking thing that totally stunned the army and the officers who were present that day was the fact that the figure as it came closer and closer looked very much like Hitler, but when the alien figure approached the main body of army officers and men who stood nearby, all of them quickly snapped to upright attention, raised their right arms, and shouted in unison "Heil Hitler” – for it was obvious to all,  – this was Adolf Hitler himself".

No record exists indicating whether any other persons or bodies were retrieved from the crash site, but it was reported in Gestapo records that 37 army personal and 12 army officers were arrested shortly afterwards and were never seen again.

All had been present at the crash site that day, and all had witnessed seeing what they believed to be Hitler emerge from the spacecraft.

 Gestapo headquarters, Prinz-Albrecht-Straße No.8
[Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-R97512 / CC-BY-SA 3.0]

When word of the crashed spacecraft made its way back to the German High Command and the report landed on the ‘real’ Führer’s desk, he immediately ordered elements of the Luftwaffe and Germany’s top aeronautical experts to sift through the remains and he ordered the Gestapo to closely guard and detain the lone alien occupier of the craft at Gestapo headquarters in Berlin..

Hitler wanted to see this alien being for himself and he told the Gestapo Chief that he (Hitler) would be there within the hour.

The transcripts by Gestapo security officers of what happened next at the Gestapo headquarters have long since gone missing, but leading officers who were present told after the war that Hitler spent two hours alone with the alien being in a Gestapo cell house room, when he knocked the door to come out, Hitler ordered the removal of the alien to Berchtesgaden in Bavaria, Hitler’s private retreat.

Adolf Hitler Berlin Bunker

Hitler was overheard telling Josef Göbbels:

“My god in heaven Josef, this changes everything.

"This is a special sign, Götterdämmerung has shown its face to me in person here today.

"This alien being is exactly like me, he is the ‘spare cog’ in the machinery of our National Socialist Revolution".

A contingent of SS guards and medical staff were sent along with the alien being to Berchtesgaden, and a separate underground system already built at Berchtesgaden was to house the alien being along with the guards and medical staff.

The alien Hitler lookalike was questioned for months about the spacecraft technology, but the alien being had amnesia and could not give the Germans any information about the technological side of how the craft was engineered or where he had come from.

The damaged saucer was moved into a warehouse facility under 24-hour guard near the Rhine.

Some parts were also flown to a facility near the Austrian border.

In late 1941 it was secretly reported that Hitler had developed large tumours in his stomach and pancreas, he would never see the war out alive, and it was estimated that Hitler had just six months to live.

But by this time, Operation Barbarossa, the attack upon the Soviet Union was well under way, Hitler knew that he could not outlive the campaign and see it through to absolute victory now that he had cancer. But he knew who could.

It is believed that Hitler had the lookalike alien (Hitler) stand in for him.

The Germans used the technology gained from the spacecraft and Hitler hoped that it could be used to win the war even after his own death from cancer and with his double standing in for him.

It is believed that Hitler lost his battle with cancer sometime around Febuary 1942, it was then that his alien double stood in for him after long and sustained training in language and the real Hitler’s posture and habits.

Work begins on the new space super weapons with alien technology obtained from the flying saucer that had also delivered the ‘look-alike’ Hitler.

Allegedly, members of the secret security teams that worked on the advanced alien technology were from the Luftwaffe, the Speer Ministry of Arms headed by Albert Speer, and the formal research council, the "Reichsforschungrat", composed of university professors and industrial engineers.

The teams were assembled to reverse engineer what was salvaged and among the experts called upon were the Horten brothers—who later designed and tested revolutionary flying wing aircraft and the world’s first stealth jet fighter-bomber. Some of their resulting technology may have been gleaned from intense study of the alien craft, although that cannot be proven.

Later, the expertise of Viktor Schauberger was tapped.

The Schauberger Error
Kevin McClure

It’s much easier to dismiss an absurd claim that is fresh and new, than one which has been around for a while, and has taken root. It is, for example, simple enough to assess the reliability of David Icke’s assertion that Dr Josef Mengele – seemingly after he died – mind-controlled a young American woman to make her go to Balmoral Castle, and officiate at rituals where the Queen and Queen Mother turned into reptiles and devoured small children. Or to judge whether, as 'Sir' Laurence Gardner tells us in an explanation on which his whole 'Grail Bloodline' theory depends, the otherwise unmentioned daughter of Josef of Arimathea (in this version, the brother of Jesus Christ) popped over to Wales to marry and settle down with Bran the Blessed, a mythical god-figure who spent much of his life as a detached head and who, even in the relevant myths, would have been well over 100 years old at the time of the marriage.

Dislodging established and much-repeated nonsense is much more difficult, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. And where that nonsense tends to exaggerate and glorify the activities of the SS during World War II, I think we should try particularly hard. In that spirit of endeavour, let’s see what we can do about the very untrue story of Viktor Schauberger – builder of flying saucers.

The detailed and ever-increasing fiction of the Nazi UFO mythos tells us that the Nazis, whatever the actual outcome of the Second World War, were so technically, creatively and scientifically brilliant that had the war only lasted a few months longer, they would have won it by using their amazing flying saucers, which were so very nearly ready for combat when the Allied forces went into Czechoslovakia and Southern Germany. My essay 'Phoney Warfare', available on the Magonia website, records my research into the Nazi UFO mythos up to mid-2000, since when I have continued to try to evaluate each new account as it emerges.

There are two hurdles the mythos has always fought to overcome. Firstly, that there is no historical record whatever of the standard characters said to have been involved in saucer development. Names like Schriever, Belluzzo, Habermohl, Miethe and Klein appear regularly, but there is no evidence for the involvement of any of them in the development of flying discs. Only Guiseppe Belluzzo has any verifiable scientific background at all, Schriever was a delivery driver, and it is unclear whether Habermohl and Miethe even so much as existed as identifiable individuals.

Secondly, there is no historical evidence – physical or photographic – of the supposed flying discs. We are repeatedly told of discs of immense power, and sometimes immense size, defying all scientific parameters known before and since. Yet not so much as a bolt or a tachyon drive remains. The only evidence presented – and repeated so often – is by way of the tinny, fuzzy post-war photos taken by those who wished to convince us of saucer reality, but who usually succeeded only in persuading non-believers of the unexplored potential of domestic containers and the art of close-up photography. The mythos argument is that rather than being extraterrestrial in origin the discs were actually developed from captured Nazi blueprints, by captured Nazi scientists. Relocated in America, they chose to have their miracle craft chug unimpressively around the dusty back roads of the USA, sometimes landing, sometimes crashing, and sometimes – particularly the very small discs – utilising conveniently placed string to hang from trees, swinging gently and photogenically in the wind. Not a single claim of flying Nazi discs predates either 1949, or media interest in flying saucers in the USA.

Once upon a time, in Austria, there was a forester called Viktor Schauberger. He lived from 1885 to 1958, and in his long life he devised and worked on a variety of inventions. He had a keen and original interest in the motion and motive potential of water, and the most notable of his achievements were probably in the design and development of log flotation methods and flumes in the 1920s. Thereafter, he appears to have attempted to develop his ideas of the motion of water and air towards the production of turbines and of cheap, natural power and energy. There is little, and possibly no evidence that any of these later, more ambitious ideas ever reached fruition, and although his son and grandson have continued with some more theoretical aspects of his work, it seems that no repeatable demonstration of Schauberger’s technology has ever taken place. He died in 1958, and no tangible example of his supposed wartime or post-war experiments survives him.

For those who want to further the cause of secret Nazi science, maintain the flying saucer mystery, or both, Viktor Schauberger has been a prayer answered. Not because he actually built flying discs for the Nazis, but because some round, bulbous inventions he may have worked on were photographed and, with a bit of airbrushing, adding Luftwaffe insignia and so on, they looked rather like the round, bulbous inventions that featured in 1950s Ufology. That he left no physical or technical evidence of his supposed disc experiments, was at times somewhat confused about the facts (there is evidence that he spent some time in a psychiatric hospital), and kept a diary in a shorthand that was difficult even for his family to comprehend, could only assist in using his name. He even had a long, grand beard to suggest that he was a misunderstood genius. History was ripe for rewriting, and not just the once.

The mythos itself has had three distinct phases of life, with long fallow periods between. The first was in the early Fifties, when a handful of individuals, none of them connected with any post-war rocket or aviation programme in Russia, the USA or anywhere else, claimed to be at least partly responsible for the saucer sightings of the period. Schauberger – still alive at the time – didn’t get a mention at that stage, and made no claim of his own.

Then, around 1975, Canadian Ernest Zündel, also known as Christof Friedrich and Mattern Friedrich, and notorious for his pro-active and well-publicised scepticism of the reality of the Holocaust, published – as Mattern Friedrich – the book "UFO – Nazi Secret Weapon?" Amid questions like ‘Is Hitler Still Alive?’ and ‘Did the Nazis have the Atom Bomb?’ he set out a range of wild speculations about lost Nazi technology and, for the first time to my knowledge (I could easily be wrong), introduced a number of the key elements of Schauberger’s involvement. Zündel says:

“Schauberger did experiments early in 1940-41 in Vienna and his 10 foot diameter models were so successful that on the very first tests they took off vertically at such surprising speeds that one model shot through the 24-foot high hangar ceiling. After this `success’ Schauberger’s experiments received 'Vordringlichkeitsstufe’ - high priority – and he was given adequate funds and facilities as well as help. His aides included Czechoslovak engineers who worked at the concentration camp at Mauthausen on some parts of the Schauberger flying saucers. It is largely through these people that the story leaked out.”

Zündel also invented an account of Schauberger’s later history and death. Although he actually died at home in 1958, Zündel’s story is that:

"Viktor Schauberger lived for some years in the United States after the war where he was reported to be working on UFO projects. His articles were greatly discussed and then one day in Chicago he just vanished. His battered body was found and as to who killed Schauberger or why has never been discovered. One version has it that gangsters tried to beat his revolutionising secrets out of him and accidentally killed him".

Zündel also published the first drawings – presumably from photos – of what he called the ‘electromagnetically-powered Flying Hats’.

In the next year, 1976, a biography of sorts appeared ("Living Water", Gateway Books, 1997), written by Olof Alexandersson, a Swedish ‘electrical engineer and archive conservationist’. While admitting that “the information for the basis of this book is fragile”, he managed, from unlisted sources, to add substantially to the mythos …

“After a while Schauberger received his call-up. It was now 1943, and even older men were being drafted. He was eventually appointed the commandant of a parachute company in Italy, but after a short stay, orders came from Himmler that he should present himself at the SS college at Vienna-Rosenhügel. When he arrived, he was taken to the concentration camp at Mauthausen, where he was to contact the SS Standartenführer Ziereis, who told him he had a personal greeting from Himmler. ‘We have considered your scientific research and think there is something in it. You can now either choose to take charge of a scientific team of technicians and physicists from among the prisoners, to develop machines utilising the energy you have discovered, or you will be hanged.’

"Schauberger understandably chose the first (insisting that his helpers must no longer be regarded as prisoners) and so an intensive period of study began. After the SS college, where the research was taking place, was bombed. Schauberger and his team were transferred to Leonstein, near Linz. The project they initiated there was a `flying saucer’ powered by a ‘trout turbine’.

"The results of the research were surprising. It was both a success and a failure. Viktor Schauberger later explained this briefly in a letter to the West German defence minister Strauss on 28 February 1956:

'I preferred the first alternative, and about a year later, the first ‘flying saucer’ rose unexpectedly, at the first attempt, to the ceiling, and then was wrecked'.

Alexandersson produced slightly different pictures of the ‘flying hats’, probably just removing the Luftwaffe insignia Zündel had added, and reproduced drawings of other absurd imaginary wartime UFOs copied directly from Zündel.

Since then, architect Callum Coats has published a series of books which cover that confusing territory between science and esotericism, reflecting a surprisingly persistent interest in Schauberger’s theories about water and implosion. In 1996 ("Living Energies", Gateway, 2001), he published what appear to be actual photos of the ‘flying hats’, as well as reprinting earlier drawings, and tells us that:

"Despite its compact size, this machine generated such a powerful levitational force that when it was first switched on (without Viktor Schauberger’s permission and in his absence!), it sheared the six quarter-inch diameter high-tensile steel anchor bolts and shot upwards to smash against the roof of the hangar".

However, the sight of the objects themselves only underlines the unavoidable truth that the only factor uniting all those who tell us about the reality of the Schauberger flying saucers is that none of them have the least idea of how or why they flew. Indeed, it is hard to imagine how they could.

Coats also quotes one ‘A. Khammas’, writing in the undated issue 93 of "Implosion" magazine:

"There are many rumours about what Schauberger was actually doing during this period, most of which suggest he was in charge of developing 'flying discs' under contract to the army. It later became known that the ‘flying disc’ launched in Prague on 19 February 1945, which rose to an altitude of 15,000 metres in throe minutes and attained a forward speed of 2,200 kph, was a development of the prototype he built at Mauthausen concentration camp. Schauberger wrote, ‘I only first heard of this event after the war through one of the technicians who had worked with me’. In a letter to a friend, dated 2 August 1956, Schauberger commented, ‘The machine was supposed to have been destroyed just before the end of the war on Keitel’s orders'.

Perhaps we should find it significant that, while we are told that Victor Schauberger effectively rewrote aviation technology with two extraordinary demonstrations of the power of the engine he invented, we are also told that he was both absent from the events, and unaware that they would take place.

The most recent phase of belief in the Nazi UFO mythos began in the last five years [as of May 2003]. Susan Michaels, in "Sightings: UFOs" (Fireside, 1997), reproduces a range of palpable fictions from unreliable sources, and introduces some freshly minted nonsense. Possibly becoming confused by inconsistent, fictional accounts of a meeting with Hitler in 1933, she says:

"Also in 1939, German physicist Victor Schauberger developed a design for a flying saucer using energy he claimed could be harnessed from the tonal vibrations, or ‘harmonics’, of the cosmos. As far-fetched as this theory seems, Schauberger’s research attracted the attention of Adolf Hitler, who offered to provide funds to build Schauberger’s own anti-gravity saucer. But Schauberger, who was a deeply committed pacifist, turned Hitler down".

The following year, aviation writer and photographer Bill Rose wrote an article, tagged as 'UFO sightings – why you can blame Adolf Hitler', in the popular science magazine "Focus" (October 1998). After, apparently, four years of research he concluded that:

“The father of the German disc programme was Rudolfh Schriever, a Luftwaffe aeronautical engineer assigned to Heinkel in 1940 … a full-sized piloted version, the V2, first flew in 1943 with Schriever at the controls. Thirty feet in diameter, the V2 had a fixed central cabin around which a ring with adjustable vanes rotated to provide thrust in both the horizontal and vertical planes … Early in 1944, Schriever’s top-secret programme was moved to Czechoslovakia … Schriever was joined by a number of leading aeronautical engineers … Another addition was the Austrian scientist Viktor Schauberger, who just before his death in 1958 claimed to have worked on a highly classified US disc programme in Texas".

Rose seems to be the first to have suggested that Schauberger actually worked together with the four other ‘engineers’ who the mythos says built flying saucers. Actually, even when those who actually said anything made their claims – Klaus Habermohl never said anything, probably because he didn’t exist, and Richard Miethe may have been someone else entirely who lived in Egypt – they never made that one. But even Rose doesn’t have the same remarkable sources as, it seems, did Gary Hyland, the author of "Blue Fires" (Headline, 2001), who says of Schauberger:

"The first test-flight of the machine was reportedly amazingly successful (it apparently shot through the roof of the laboratory and had to be recovered some distance away) … he developed his ideas further, to the point where a full-sized, though unmanned flying disc prototype that used his new engine apparently flew under radio control … At the end of the war, the American forces got to Leonstein ahead of the Russians and found Schauberger and his team of experts. After letting the members of his team leave after a thorough interrogation, the Americans held Schauberger in protective custody for six months; it would seem that they knew exactly what he had been up to and wanted to prevent other nations, as well as renegade Nazis, from continuing to use his services".

Exceeding even the rich imaginations of Michaels, Rose and Hyland lie those who provided the information underpinning the much-publicised book "The Hunt for Zero Point" (Century, 2001) by Nick Cook, a notable freelance aviation journalist who has written for the very respectable "Jane’s Defence Weekly". In the course of an investigation lasting, we are told, some ten years, he appears to have been comprehensively misinformed by a series of individuals, or perhaps by individuals acting on behalf of a group of people with a specific agenda. It seems that for all the informants he gathered along the way – informants he often protects with anonymity, like the pseudonymous "Lawrence Cross" -- a former reporter at "Jane's" who had moved on to work in Australia.  – nobody ever warned him that those who want to make the Nazi regime, and the SS in particular, look good, are unsurprisingly happy to deceive to do so.

Without going through Cook’s oddly directionless "Hunt" in any detail, it’s worth noting that his primary source about Schauberger was a Polish gentleman named Igor Witkowski. Witkowski, apparently, volunteered to drive Cook around, showing him sites where Schauberger had worked for the Nazis constructing and testing ‘The Bell’, a supposed experimental device with two cylinders spinning in opposite directions. Cook was told that this glowed blue and destroyed plants, birds, animals, and sometimes humans. Internet searches for Witkowski bring him up in connection with the loopy 'crashed saucers' end of Polish Ufology, and he has self-published six or more separate items titled something like "Hitler’s Supersecret Weapon".

Witkowski tells Cook that his extraordinary information comes from an unnameable source, which Cook seems to accept without question. It seems that a ‘Polish government official’ phoned Witkowski, inviting him to view documents and take notes about the development and concealment of extraordinary Nazi technology, as given in a record of “the activities of a special unit of the Soviet secret intelligence service". Witkowski’s evidence, together with a visit to Schauberger’s grandson, leads Cook to reproduce the material about imprisonment by the US after the war, and the apartment being blown up by the Russians, together with various unlikely claims about Schauberger being offered massive sums of money by (right-wing) Americans in the years before he died. And that Schauberger’s designs had been stolen by Heinkel in the early part of the war, that he had worked on secret projects for the Nazis from 1941 through to the end of the war, working at a number of factories, sometimes using slave labour. That he had created, for and with the support of the SS, disc-shaped machines with engines so revolutionary that even Cook, an aviation journalist, cannot explain how they worked.

As I mentioned, one of the problems with the Nazi UFO mythos is explaining away the absolute absence of palpable evidence. Cook chooses to adopt SS General Hans Kammler for this purpose. Kammler used concentration camp labour to build the Atlantic Wall, contributed to the construction of the Auschwitz gas chambers, and was in charge of the V2 missile programme, which again ruthlessly exploited slave labour. He is also, it seems, the person who spirited away all traces of Schauberger’s astonishing technical achievements, allegedly to his own advantage by way of trade with the approaching Allies: however, the earliest version I have found of this story dates from 1989, put about by "Nevada Aerial Research", who have done much to publicise the wonders of supposed Nazi technology. They later came up with the first and most unpleasant of the tales of dominant and brutal alien beings living below the US air base at Dulce. I do not believe that their account of Kammler had any existence prior to 1989, or that it is true.

There is no period of history more thoroughly examined than 1939-1945, and no subject more closely examined than the Nazis, and within the Nazis, the SS. Had there been any reality in the claims for the construction and testing – or more – of high-speed flying disc technology by the Third Reich during that period, then we would have every reason to expect that it would have been discovered, reported, and analysed by writers and researchers far more competent than those referred to above. Yet it never has been.

Nonetheless, there is this recurrent and developing counter-culture argument that says that these extraordinary events actually happened. It is a theory that has sold millions of books and a number of deeply unpleasant videos, and it continues to fuel a belief that, given just those few more months, the true genius of the Nazis, the drive of the SS, and the inspiration of the Führer would have won through, and the Allies – no, not just the Soviet Union, but all the Allies – would have been defeated. Just imagine how that would have been.

While I’m happy to be challenged by solid evidence, I’ve found no reason to believe that Viktor Schauberger knew anything of all this: I think he died before it was made up. He never built a flying disc, let alone one that flew using some unknown and unprecedented method of propulsion. He wasn’t sought out by Hitler or the SS, didn’t choose slave workers from Mauthausen to assist him and wasn’t held by the Americans after the war because of his technical knowledge and achievements. If the Russians burned his flat down, I doubt that they even knew whose flat it was. He never worked for years in the USA, and wasn’t offered any sums of money to do so. If you want a real mystery to solve, try working out who invented all these tales, and why, and whether anyone apart from the authors involved has gained materially, or in achieving political or personal aims, as a result of their dissemination.

He was the inventor of the revolutionary imploder motor that created an imploding vortex.

   1932 Guido Tallei Diri-Disk Blimp
[U.S. Patent 14 May 1929 - 1,712,529]

Although vastly influenced by the capture of an actual disc, research into circular aircraft had been going on in Italy for years.

The ET craft served to advance propulsion, electronics and provided clues to workable designs, but the scientists were at a loss regarding the metallurgy as the craft was composed of materials unknown to them and impossible to duplicate in the lab.

Some of Germany’s most advanced theoretical engineers and physicists were personally tasked to get the technology working and make it available for the war effort. In that regards, geniuses like Belluzzo, Habermohl, Miethe and Schriever were recruited.

Documents captured by the Allies after the war ended indicate that Schriever was the first to have some success with the disc technology.

His own research, augmented by what had by then been deduced from the retrieved saucer, enabled him to build a working craft powered by specially designed jet engines.

The craft, however, was unstable.

The first two versions ended in disastrous crashes killing the test pilots.

As the years advanced and the Allies began counter-attacking Germany, some Nazi officials began pressuring Schauberger to adapt a version of his Repulsine imploder to serve as the motive force for a different type of disc craft using the vortex propulsion motor.

Although the Nazi engineers and scientists built their first experimental saucers from light steel or heavy aluminum, the steel still proved too heavy and the aluminum too soft and not tough enough to withstand the stress subjected to it when molded into a lens-shaped craft.

Frustrated scientists finally gave up trying to unravel the mystery of the alien metal and succeeded in creating their own version with an alloy of aluminum and magnesium in 1944.

The new alloy was exactly what they needed to design bigger and better craft.

The metal was light, yet more durable than simple aluminum.

Hitler’s alien double pressed the engineers onwards with greater frenzy, but he still had amnesia and could not remember anything about the alien technology.

Germany was now suffering nightly bombing raids and factories across the country had been moved to gigantic underground facilities.

Aircraft production lines were being hampered and destroyed and the rocket facility run by Wernher von Braun at Peenemünde was not back up to full capacity after being bombed in 1943.

Slave laborers, mostly Slavic, were pressed into service to produce V-2 rockets, advanced aircraft, synthetic fuel, high explosives…and incredible remote-controlled flying saucers.

According to documents and the testimony of surviving Polish slave laborers, the Germans actually created an assembly line to manufacture a flying disc weapon called the Kugelblitz (ball lightening).

The Allied pilots called them Foo-fighters.

The Kugelblitz was the first real flying saucer ever manufactured by any nation on Earth after the original landing in Germany by the flying saucer that had delivered the look-alike Hitler.

According to captured documents, the radio-controlled craft were made in the underground factories at Thuringia and the craft varied in size from 10 to 15-feet across.

Reportedly they were amazingly maneuverable and were able to achieve speeds of more than 1,250 miles per hour.

They emitted a strong electrostatic field designed to disrupt the electrical circuits of conventional aircraft causing enemy planes to falter, dive, and crash.

A few disc crafts other than Schriever’s early attempts were constructed and flown.

About 18 months before the Germans surrendered, the lookalike alien Hitler pinned his hopes—and those of Germany—on the incredible potential of a mind-boggling array of superweapons.

The greatest of the weapons were his new class of Vengeance weapons.

 The old V-weapons were the rocket plane V-1 and intercontinental missile V-2.

The alien technology of Hitler’s original dream and then his alien double envisioned the world’s first cruise missile: a V-3 sub-orbital, intercontinental hypersonic rocket (Sänger 'Silverbird') capable of hitting New York and Washington.

And then there were the flying saucers…

S.S. Reichsführer Himmler recommended S. S. Gruppenführer Hans Kammler to head the saucer projects and save the Fatherland.

Later Kammler is said to have overseen the 'Glocke' project as well.

Undoubtedly, Germany’s super weapons—specifically those they were perfecting in the closing months of the war—would have defeated the Allies and helped Germany conquer and rule Western and Eastern Europe, suppress the U.S.S.R., and keep America neutered—even with the new atomic weapon the U.S. had developed.

But the Germans ran out of time.

Some argue that no matter what the Nazis had, they could not have staved off American atomic attacks.

Yet evidence exists that in the final weeks of the war the Germans successfully detonated their own low-yield atomic bomb and that coupled with stealth aircraft, the imploder vortex motor, advanced television bombs, the hypersonic V-3 “Amerika Bomb,” and flying saucer fighters—ostensibly augmented with harvested alien technology—would have sealed the fate of the Nazi’s enemies…

And what of Hitler’s alien double?

It was said that after his suicide in 1945, it took 52 gallons of petrol to burn his corpse after death and that the one capsule of poison he was said to have taken was actually in reality repeated injections of Acid, Ethylene glycol, Digoxin and Hydrogen peroxide.

It took four hours to kill the alien Hitler, and over 240 rounds of ammunition.

It was later reported that the 'thing' was screaming like some kind of prehistoric monster and the alien Hitler was lurching from room to room inside the underground Bunker in Berlin as the SS guards tried to end its life.

Eventually the thing began to 'smoulder' and 'hiss' and  a strange coloured odourless liquid began to seep from the creature’s mouth.

He was cremated outside in the Chancellery gardens and buried.

It was said that when the occupying Russian forces dug up the grave when they arrived a few days later, the remains of the alien thing had gone and just a slimy liquid remained.

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